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949 Racing's 15x8 6UL Racing Wheels
11/08/06 at 10:37:40
 
We visted 949Racing in Lake Forest on 11/8/2006, and this is what we saw.
 
 
A brief overview of the 6UL wheel
15" diameter
8" width
40mm offset 5.94" backside setting or +20mm offset optional. +40 preferred Miata fitment. +20 requires flares, 195 tires, camber or all three.
12.8 lbs 5.8kg +40
13.64 lbs 6.2kg +20
59.1 hub center (Mazda 54.1, Honda/Toyota 56.1, E30/Mini 57.1, Nissan 59.1)
1.125" lip 29mm
60* conical seat lug hole (accepts stock lugs)
Double valve design (purge valve for nitrogen)
Cast, one piece
500kg max load
A356.2 alloy
Heat treated
Spectrometer analysis of raw material to insure purity
Each batch is X rayed for material conformity
ISO9001 production facility
JWL certified
TUV approved facility
Machined lip, silver or black center
 
 
Avon 245/40-15



 
949Racing 6UL in Silver

 
+20 Backspacing

 
+40

 
225/45-15 Mounted


 
Black/Polished with the Avon

 
Test Fitting on nonsense's EJ8

 
Nickel Finish








 
So tough!!!


 
Holy crap man...soneone has got to make this work.

 
Techie Specs on the 6UL:
A brief overview of the 6UL wheel
15" diameter
8" width
40mm offset 5.94" backside setting or +20mm offset optional. +40 preferred Miata fitment. +20 requires flares, 195 tires, camber or all three.
12.8 lbs 5.8kg +40
13.64 lbs 6.2kg +20
59.1 hub center (Mazda 54.1, Honda/Toyota 56.1, E30/Mini 57.1, Nissan 59.1)
1.125" lip 29mm
60* conical seat lug hole (accepts stock lugs)
Double valve design (purge valve for nitrogen)
Cast, one piece
500kg max load
A356.2 alloy
Heat treated
Spectrometer analysis of raw material to insure purity
Each batch is X rayed for material conformity
ISO9001 production facility
JWL certified
TUV approved facility
 
If you are interested in preordering hit me up. Email is preferred. These are currently a PREORDER only deal.
 
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Re: 949 Racing's 15x8 6UL Racing Wheels
Reply #1 - 11/13/06 at 17:49:14
 
how much are they a set 15 by 4-100 also what do u mean nitrogen? Smiley
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Reply #2 - 11/14/06 at 22:28:34
 
Quote from streetracer4854 on 11/13/06 at 17:49:14:
how much are they a set 15 by 4-100 also what do u mean nitrogen? Smiley

 
 
The preorder price is $450, plus about $70 for domestic shipping.
 
Nitrogen is used for internal gas pressure by racers because it is more stable with regard to temperature change. When racing, heat from tire friction and braking causes the tires to heat up which also heats the air inside. Regualar atmosphere (air) will expand as temperature rises, which will cause the acutal PSI of the tire pressure to change!
 
For example, if you set the pressure at 32psi of regular air in the pits, then hot lap a few times, pit again and recheck the pressure, it will be higher! Not sure how much you could expect, it depends on a lot of factors. But the point is, Nitrogen will not expand and alter the tire pressure. You can set the psi and be confident that it will remain constant through the drive.
 
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Reply #3 - 11/15/06 at 13:45:18
 
Yeah, I'm totally looking forward to these wheels and very intrested in the 245 45 15's. I haven't got a clue why we don't have more tire sizes to choose from. The widest being a 225....HELLO McFLY!! It's almost like the tire companies are geared for making money. Tongue
 
Is the Miata testing with the 245 45 15 Avon tire going to be added to this site when done??
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Reply #4 - 11/19/06 at 09:52:34
 
Quote from DVP on 11/15/06 at 13:45:18:
Yeah, I'm totally looking forward to these wheels and very intrested in the 245 45 15's. I haven't got a clue why we don't have more tire sizes to choose from. The widest being a 225....HELLO McFLY!! It's almost like the tire companies are geared for making money. Tongue

Is the Miata testing with the 245 45 15 Avon tire going to be added to this site when done??

 
 
Lol, a company geared for making money??? Those bastards! Lol.
 
Anyway, the 245 Avons fit the miatas perfectly with the 6UL wheels. But I would not hold my breath fitting them on a honda any time soon.
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Reply #5 - 11/19/06 at 11:23:29
 
CLIFF NOTES.
-Hankooks are wider than Azenis...period
-We are going with +40 offset, and +36 instead of +20 for the second option
-EF/EG/EK/DA/DC all fit about the same max backspacing on the inside, the first point of contact is the rear upper control arm
-ideal setup (or me anyway) looking to be 15x8 with +40 front and +36 rear with 195/50-15 Hankooks or 205/50-15 Azenis
 
 
Ok, I went back to 949Racing yester day (11/19/06) and we did some test fitting on my EJ1 (EG) and a CRX (EF).
 
Something really interesting happened when we went to measure the tread width of the tires....
 
My Tealtoe, as you might recall, is running 205/50-15 Falken Azenis.
 

Kinda hard to see, but we are looking at about 7.5" if I am looking at the correct reference point.
 
Now, check out a 205/50-15 Hankook R-S2:

Um....8.25"!?!?! Wow, no wonder the Hankooks filled out that 8" wide wheel so well!
 
Which begs the question. If a 205/50 R-S2 is 3/4" bigger than a 205/50 Azenis, how wide is a 195/50 R-S2? Well...

about 7.75"
 
Here is a height comparison of the 205/50-15 tires. Hankook left, Falken right:
 

 
Hankook is obviously shorter.
 
Here is an above shot:
 

 
To recap the sizing, in order of actual measured tread width:
Falken Azenis 205/50-15 : 7.5"
Hankook Ventus R-S2 195/50-15 : 7.75"
Hankook Ventus R-S2 205/50-15 : 8.25"
 
 
We tossed the 205/50-15 on the 15x8 6UL wheel, +40, and test fitted on an EG chassis. Keep in mind my Civic is not running additional camber. It has not been altered in anyway. Camber exhibited is just from lowering.
 



 
 
EJ1 Rear
 


 
EJ1 Front
 





 
Yes, I have dicked around with the fenders on this Tealtoe Civic:
Read about what I did here
Yeah, so a racer is not going to run this low, so, we get a pretty decent idea of the clearance at a pretty good amount of compression.
 
FIT ON THE EG:
Same as the EK....there is room in the front, and in the rear the wheel is hitting the control arm. A little less backspacing is needed there.
 
 
 
Next, we tossed these on a CRX to see how the fit was on an EF chassis. The car was on stock springs, so to simulate a lowered stance we jacked up the left rear wheel to compress the right front:
 

 


 
Front EF:




 
Clearance at radius rod, this is with the car on the ground, rf corner compressed. There was plenty of clearance at the tie rod as well.

 
Rear EF:


 
 
Again, there was contact at the darn
 control arm:

 
 
So by all this fitting, we have decided that instead of offering +40 and +20, 949Racing 6UL wheels are to be available in +40 and +36 offsets. The ideal setup on DA/DC/EF/EG/EK looks to be either +40 all around with a 3-5 mm spacer in the rear, or +40 in the front and +36 in the back for those not wanting a spacer.
 
Also, due to low demand, the black/polished wheels are being axed in favor of a satin black finish, similar to the color on my RPF1s.
 
For tires, the best choice for fit is the 195/50 R-S2, or even a 195/50 Azenis, which we are guessing is about 1/4" narrower than the R-S2. For more contact patch with a reasonable compromise in fit, the 205/50 R-S2 is the way to go. 225/50 R-S2s will fit, but you are going to be on your own making it happen with the fenders. In reality, the 205/50 Hankooks should be adequite.
 
Thanks for reading!!!
 
You can preorder online now!!!
http://www.heeltoeauto.com/manufacturers.php?manufacturerid=38
 
Scheduled delivery is mid Jan 07. After 11/30 the price will increase to retail pricing, just fyi. So if you want to get in on these contact me asap!!! We are also offering tire packages for all the combos listed. Not everything is on the site yet. Look for it soon!
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Reply #6 - 11/20/06 at 10:37:29
 
HERE IS A LINK TO THE PDF FILE THAT YOU CAN USE TO SEE IF THIS WHEEL WILL CLEAR YOUR BRAKE KIT!!!!
 
 
I needed to scale my print size to 106% to get the correct size. You may need to do a couple test prints to get it correct.
 
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Reply #7 - 11/29/06 at 09:03:32
 
Here is with the 195-50-15 Hankooks on my 87 CRX. The size on these is very wide despite the size designation.
 
The rim fits the same on this car as all other Hondas so far. +40 in the front barely has any room, and +40 in the back hits the control arm. We need spacers or +36 in the back.
 
 











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Reply #8 - 05/07/08 at 07:59:59
 
couple questions:
 
1.  Is nonsense's car lowered? and if so, how much.
 
2.  In the pic with the Avon in front and Hankooks in the rear, what size Hankooks are mounted (205 or 195)?
 
3.  How much drop is on the Tealtoe?
 
4.  Did you take any measurements on the Avon 245 to compare with the Hankooks and Falkens?
 
5.  Am I being a pest yet?
 
I'm planning on using the 6UL on my 2000 Si.  I'm trying to stuff as much tire as possible in the front with the Eibach 1.4" dropsprings.  
 
Any information you can provide is greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks
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